tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6093644604429778937.post1798848370856080369..comments2023-10-01T04:45:07.532-07:00Comments on Geekinthecockpit: Learning from others mistakesGeekinthecockpithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15853969211193512474noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6093644604429778937.post-78389145231613098322016-03-01T07:37:49.555-08:002016-03-01T07:37:49.555-08:00I am dreaming to live in place like this. I don...I am dreaming to live in place like this. I don't know, maybe it will be boring after NY, but it's my dream. I will visit Tenerife this summer and it should be really nice vacation. Is there all good with transport or i should take something like <a href="http://kiwitaxi.com/Spain/Tenerife+South+Airport" rel="nofollow">http://kiwitaxi.com/Spain/Tenerife+South+Airport</a>?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6093644604429778937.post-44994434177042244552009-05-13T09:34:43.000-07:002009-05-13T09:34:43.000-07:00I read the transcript yesterday... I am not a pilo...I read the transcript yesterday... I am not a pilot (trying to be though) but I do understand "checkrides" and agree that failing 5 is not that bad, depending on when they where or what the reasons were... I will only say that I hope that the flight crew, passengers, and the person on the ground are resting in peace... You will all be missed... As another pilot that blogs says, he will not judge or pick them apart, as you will soon make the same mistake or a worse one as they did!Stefannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6093644604429778937.post-77907755697438032302009-05-13T12:35:46.000-07:002009-05-13T12:35:46.000-07:00That animation just makes me want to crindgeThat animation just makes me want to crindgeIanhttp://pilotian.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6093644604429778937.post-84543883711207285982009-05-13T13:17:25.000-07:002009-05-13T13:17:25.000-07:00PS As you said, we learn from the mistakes and mov...PS As you said, we learn from the mistakes and move on... I can't believe I forgot that!Stefannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6093644604429778937.post-2621780465688618342009-05-13T15:02:06.000-07:002009-05-13T15:02:06.000-07:00Very few people have in tested in a fashion where ...Very few people have in tested in a fashion where the outcome of their descision is one of life or death. Some have taken the right action and survived, some the wrong and died. Sadly, some have taken other lives as well as theirs. For some, their actions really don't matter for they are so screwed, the outcome is nearly certain. Yet others recieve some sort of divine or ordained repreive that lets them survive despite themselves. <br><br>You will never know for sure how you will react when it really, really matters. You won't know until you are in that position and suddenly you realize you are in a defining moment with your very existence, or the existence of others is on the line. At least the Colgan crew continued to fight until the end. Sadly their actions will be second guessed for a long time. Many of the accusers are speaking without the knowledge of how they will react in that critical situation.<br><br>The transcript was a chilling read, with a wierd crew dynamic and a tragic outcome. How the mud will fly.bobmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6093644604429778937.post-62021002250913420442009-05-14T20:58:53.000-07:002009-05-14T20:58:53.000-07:00I was thinking could they have averted the stall a...I was thinking could they have averted the stall after the stick pusher kicked in? or it was too late already (low altitude)? or atlest when the stick shaker kicked in?<br><br>meaning if they would have done:<br><br>1) They were at 2200ft when the stick pusher pushed the nose down, so<br>2 Engine full power<br>3) Gear up<br>4) Full flaps down (guess it will improve lift at low speed? maybe bad idea? increase drag too?)<br>5) Try to maintain the nose down angle (the normal degree) and not exceed into steep pitch down angle and try to regain speed for the current flap setting<br>6) Once they gained speed, level off... then try to slowly climb<br><br>Could these action have saved the flight or they were doomed because of their low altitude stall?<br><br>I feel the biggest mistake the pilot made was to fly in Autopilot into know icing conditions and also be distracted with non essential talks at low altitude (bad cockpit culture)...they were worried about ice build up.. they should have been more vigilant, maybe if flying pilot had his/her and on the yoke then he/she might have been able to react more quickely when the stick shaker kicked in???<br><br>Since i am not a pilot (wanting to be one soon) i have already started to learn to have proper attitude towards rules and proven safety regulations... i too love the program "Air Crash Investigation"<br><br>Its a really good program and i guess all pilots & wanna be should watch them and learn from the mistakes!<br><br>the most heartbreaking incident was the "Tenerife" airport disaster... such a experienced Capitan aware of the situation around having make such a bad decision.. even after being warned by the more alert co-pilot... atlest the world learned a big lesson here with such a high price... atlest they implemented "Crew Resource Management" to avoid such situation in future....Ajinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6093644604429778937.post-17527205248023728962009-05-15T00:42:34.000-07:002009-05-15T00:42:34.000-07:00My heart goes out to all 50 people. May they rest ...My heart goes out to all 50 people. May they rest in peace.<br><br>I somehow feel that the lack of regulation, Colgan's poorer standards, the pilot's low rest, reduced pay, lack of experience, bad weather, and poor economy all contributed to the incident. <br><br>Just saying all the fault belongs to the cockpit crew (some media) isn't seeing the entire picture. <br><br>***********************<br><br>QUESTION: As a regional pilot, do you have to do recurrent training every 6 months or 1 year to keep you proficient on emergency procedures? If so, how often do you have to go to recurrent training? Also could you write about your experiences with that?JeBnoreply@blogger.com