tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6093644604429778937.post2179693204458072834..comments2023-10-01T04:45:07.532-07:00Comments on Geekinthecockpit: In case of any doubt....vacation is overGeekinthecockpithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15853969211193512474noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6093644604429778937.post-76139587302661397232010-01-31T14:57:04.000-08:002010-01-31T14:57:04.000-08:00[...] In case of any doubt….vacation is over | Gee...[...] In case of any doubt….vacation is over | Geek in the Cockpit [...]Clickair cockpit | Go Travelosityhttp://www.go-travelosity.com/?p=32594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6093644604429778937.post-55365068367637118442010-01-31T11:37:23.000-08:002010-01-31T11:37:23.000-08:00What would happen if you arrived late and therfore...What would happen if you arrived late and therfore flew illeagaly? would it be your fault or the airlines?Luke27noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6093644604429778937.post-927451309199330222010-01-31T13:42:32.000-08:002010-01-31T13:42:32.000-08:00I don't understand... are you really fatigued ...I don't understand... are you really fatigued or just trying to prove a point, because you were annoyed at having to fly with the Captain you don't like, and because crew scheduling changed you at the last minute?<br><br>You were on vacation... thus you should be rested. You weren't actually called until 7:25 AM, which is not particularly early, and had plenty of time to report to the airport which you live near. You had several hours to rest at the outstation - while maybe not the most relaxing depending on amenities, it's not like you were busy flying. Even if you don't get back until 7:30pm, that's still only 12 hours from when you were actually called. How tired are you really?<br><br>If this is in violation of union or FAA regulations, I think you should bring it up through appropriate channels after the fact. But it's really kind of a low blow to do this to your passengers, captain, and cabin crew - especially at an outstation where it's difficult to replace you. I've followed your blog for a while and I realize the low pay and poor conditions regional pilots must endure, and why you might want to "work to rule" occasionally to prove a point. I just don't think this is the right time - leave it for a day when you really WERE up early (possibly from reduced rest) and actually FLEW all day long - that's the conditions the duty regulations are built for, and where a violation would truly cause an unsafe situation. <br><br>If you truly are fatigued and flying would be unsafe, you must of course call in. But if I were you, I'd say, don't do it just to make management mad at you - save these situations for a time when it really counts.<br><br>Just my $0.02, feel free to delete this if you don't like this kind of comment on your blog, but I did want to make it.jportzernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6093644604429778937.post-58855818724619954882010-01-31T14:01:18.000-08:002010-01-31T14:01:18.000-08:00There is a maximum off time that I must abide by. ...There is a maximum off time that I must abide by. This time factors in how long the flight should take as planned. As long as the plane is off the ground before the maximum off time expires then I am legal to finish the flight. If the plane lands for any reason prior to reaching the destination...game over...off to the hotel.Geekhttp://geekinthecockpit.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6093644604429778937.post-28136795409623960732010-01-31T13:59:25.000-08:002010-01-31T13:59:25.000-08:00I had been awake since 6AM as I am an early riser ...I had been awake since 6AM as I am an early riser and typically get up early. From 9:25AM until 11:40AM I sat around (albeit updating charts....but still sitting around). I flew from 12:20PM until 1:10PM. Then from 1:15PM until 4:55PM I sat around. I then flew from 5:07PM until 6:15PM.<br><br>Try sitting around the house then do something very busy for an hour....then sit around for a few more hours then do something to keep you busy again. The next day just stay busy for an equal amount of time. If you are like most people the sitting around makes you more tired than staying busy. <br><br>The I would rather fly 8 hours a day than sit around an airport for 3 hours and fly one hour sit around an airport for 3 hours and fly another hour. The sitting around makes most people more tired than working. <br><br>Airports are not places to feel rested especially at outstations. There is no where to rest....just hard plastic chairs. There are constant announcements and people moving about. <br><br>I have never called in fatigued before. Knowing I had to sit around an airport for 4 hours put the potential for me being fatigued into play thus I prepared for it. I don't let outside pressures sway me into flying.....that's how accidents happen...."gotta get there itis" and "must complete the mission" ideology have caused many an accident.<br><br>And just because I came off from vacation does not mean one is well rested. The same logic is used for current FAA rest requirements.....which are thankfully getting scrutinized. <br><br>I welcome comments and criticism....which is why I have a commenting system.Geekhttp://geekinthecockpit.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6093644604429778937.post-66274836003526483652010-02-01T05:36:14.000-08:002010-02-01T05:36:14.000-08:00So which FSDO do you work at, jportzer? That, or ...So which FSDO do you work at, jportzer? That, or you're in management. Which is it?<br><br>Blows my mind how people that have absolutely no idea what they're talking about get on and criticize other's actions. Think about what you're saying here... he should be bright-eyed and bushy-tailed because he sat in a terminal for three hours? Give me a break...Codyhttp://twitter.com/KLIT22Rnoreply@blogger.com